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PostSubject: jon jones tests positive......   Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:59 pm

UFC light heavyweight champion Jon Jones failed a drug test prior to this past weekend’s UFC 182 event due to cocaine metabolites and has entered rehab.

MMAjunkie today confirmed the test results with Nevada State Athletic Commission Executive Director Bob Bennett.

Jones (21-1 MMA, 15-1 UFC) successfully defended his title for an eighth consecutive time after defeating Daniel Cormier (15-1 MMA, 4-1 UFC) via unanimous decision at the Jan. 3 pay-per-view event. He was randomly tested on Dec. 3, and results came back on Dec. 23, Bennett said.

The drug test detected benzoylecgonine, the primary metabolite of cocaine.

“At this point and time, Jones checked himself into a rehab center, and we’ll cross that bridge when he get to it,” Bennett told MMAjunkie when asked of the NSAC’s plans in wake of the failed test.

Jones is ranked No. 1 in the USA TODAY Sports/MMAjunkie MMA light-heavyweight rankings, and he’s also No. 1 pound-for-pound. Despite being just 27, the fighter’s four-year title reign has already sparked debate that he’s the greatest fighter in MMA history.

Because benzoylecgonine is not banned out of competition by the World Anti-Doping Agency, the NSAC could not halt Jones from fighting at UFC 182, which proved to be one of the biggest events in recent MMA history.

Following news of the failed test, the UFC issued the following statement, with no mention of any company-issued punishments:

We support UFC light heavyweight champion Jon Jones’ decision to enter a drug treatment facility to address his recent issue. While we are disappointed in the failed test, we applaud him for making this decision to enter a drug treatment facility. Jon is a strong, courageous fighter inside the octagon, and we expect him to fight this issue with the same poise and diligence. We commend him on his decision, and look forward to him emerging from this program a better man as a result.

The company’s president, Dana White, said he’s “proud” of Jones for entering rehab.

“I am proud of Jon Jones for making the decision to enter a drug treatment facility,” he stated. “I’m confident that he’ll emerge from this program like the champion he truly is.”

http://mmajunkie.com/2015/01/ufc-champion-jon-jones-tests-positive-for-cocaine-reportedly-enters-rehab

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PostSubject: Re: jon jones tests positive......   Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:45 am

What a fucking joke! Dana is just embarrassing himself at this point with how blatantly biased he is with certain fighters. A mid-level fighter would test positive for cocaine and Dana would show the guy the door immediately and go an an F-bomb laced tirade about how he is never fighting in the UFC again. Meanwhile, Jones could probably get caught selling meth to an undercover cop and Dana would applaud him for recognizing the error of his ways or some shit.
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PostSubject: Re: jon jones tests positive......   Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:23 am

Jesus fucking Christ! This guy... just throw the towel in on life already. Gus vs Rumble for the interim title! DO IT DANA!!!

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PostSubject: Re: jon jones tests positive......   Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:20 am

Don't see the big deal.
It's not a banned substance by the WADA which is why the NSAC allowed him to fight despite the positive test.

Guy likes to party.

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PostSubject: Re: jon jones tests positive......   Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:21 am

@Chrom wrote:
Jesus fucking Christ! This guy... just throw the towel in on life already.  Gus vs Rumble for the interim title!  DO IT DANA!!!




This 100000000000000000000000% agree with you. There is no way testing positive for drugs after a fight should allow you to keep the title.
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PostSubject: Re: jon jones tests positive......   Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:34 am

@stock wrote:
Don't see the big deal.
It's not a banned substance by the WADA which is why the NSAC allowed him to fight despite the positive test.

Guy likes to party.


yeah but then you get guys like Diaz and Riddle who get there fights over turned to NC and followed by being fired for weed. neither of which is happening to jones who got caught with a more severe drug. Its very hypocritical of the UFC at the very least. The fact Jones tested positive for a drug alone should have his win taken away from him. I would even argue his title.
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PostSubject: Re: jon jones tests positive......   Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:20 am



I don't give a fuck if WADA sees it as anything. It's a schedule 1 narcotic, illegal in all 50 states. All the bullshit talk about it being "out of competition" is just double talk. Out of competition would be, no fight scheduled at all. This was in his system during the tail end of his training camp for a title fight... that's nowhere near "out of competition".
The worst thing of it all is that the UFC/NSAC knew he was dirty and still allowed him to fight.
I don't think I need to tell you guys this but Cocaine is a diuretic as well, so I'm not sure how it could not be considered a performance enhancer.

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PostSubject: Re: jon jones tests positive......   Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:27 am

Also, I guess we now know why the UFC was so quick to drop "out of competition drug tests"

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PostSubject: Re: jon jones tests positive......   Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:50 am

But what can you do?
It's not illegal to have cocaine in your system... only posession.
It is not against the rules to fight while cocaine is in your system per WADA.
The UFC has chosen to follow WADA.

It's a right to work system, so Dana could choose to suspend him if he wanted, but why would he do that. He's got the right to make subjective decisions.

Don't get me wrong, I think Jones is a huge dick and would deserve any negative implications (from a personal perspective). However, if you look at this situation in a vacuum it's not that big of a deal to someone that thinks drug laws are stupid.

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PostSubject: Re: jon jones tests positive......   Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:01 pm

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NAC 467.850  Administration or use of alcohol, stimulants, drugs or injections; urinalysis or chemical tests; disciplinary action. (NRS 467.030)

1.  The administration of or use of any:

(a) Alcohol;

(b) Stimulant; or

(c) Drug or injection that has not been approved by the Commission, including, but not limited to, the drugs or injections listed in subsection 2,

Ê in any part of the body, either before or during a contest or exhibition, to or by any unarmed combatant, is prohibited.

2.  The following types of drugs, injections or stimulants are prohibited pursuant to subsection 1:

(a) Afrinol or any other product that is pharmaceutically similar to Afrinol.

(b) Co-Tylenol or any other product that is pharmaceutically similar to Co-Tylenol.

(c) A product containing an antihistamine and a decongestant.

(d) A decongestant other than a decongestant listed in subsection 4.

(e) Any over-the-counter drug for colds, coughs or sinuses other than those drugs listed in subsection 4. This paragraph includes, but is not limited to, Ephedrine, Phenylpropanolamine, and Mahuang and derivatives of Mahuang.

(f) Any drug identified on the most current edition of the Prohibited List published by the World Anti-Doping Agency, which is hereby adopted by reference. The most current edition of the Prohibited List may be obtained, free of charge, at the Internet address www.wada-ama.org.

3.  The following types of drugs or injections are not prohibited pursuant to subsection 1, but their use is discouraged by the Commission:

(a) Aspirin and products containing aspirin.

(b) Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatories.

4.  The following types of drugs or injections are approved by the Commission:

(a) Antacids, such as Maalox.

(b) Antibiotics, antifungals or antivirals that have been prescribed by a physician.

(c) Antidiarrheals, such as Imodium, Kaopectate or Pepto-Bismol.

(d) Antihistamines for colds or allergies, such as Bromphen, Brompheniramine, Chlorpheniramine Maleate, Chlor-Trimeton, Dimetane, Hismal, PBZ, Seldane, Tavist-1 or Teldrin.

(e) Antinauseants, such as Dramamine or Tigan.

(f) Antipyretics, such as Tylenol.

(g) Antitussives, such as Robitussin, if the antitussive does not contain codeine.

(h) Antiulcer products, such as Carafate, Pepcid, Reglan, Tagamet or Zantac.

(i) Asthma products in aerosol form, such as Brethine, Metaproterenol (Alupent) or Salbutamol (Albuterol, Proventil or Ventolin).

(j) Asthma products in oral form, such as Aminophylline, Cromolyn, Nasalide or Vanceril.

(k) Ear products, such as Auralgan, Cerumenex, Cortisporin, Debrox or Vosol.

(l) Hemorrhoid products, such as Anusol-HC, Preparation H or Nupercainal.

(m) Laxatives, such as Correctol, Doxidan, Dulcolax, Efferyllium, Ex-Lax, Metamucil, Modane or Milk of Magnesia.

(n) Nasal products, such as AYR Saline, HuMist Saline, Ocean or Salinex.

(o) The following decongestants:

(1) Afrin;

(2) Oxymetazoline HCL Nasal Spray; or

(3) Any other decongestant that is pharmaceutically similar to a decongestant listed in subparagraph (1) or (2).

5.  An unarmed combatant shall submit to a urinalysis or chemical test if the Commission or a representative of the Commission directs him or her to do so.

6.  A licensee who violates any provision of this section is subject to disciplinary action by the Commission. In addition to any other disciplinary action by the Commission, if an unarmed combatant who won or drew a contest or exhibition is found to have violated the provisions of this section, the Commission may, in its sole discretion, change the result of that contest or exhibition to a no decision.

[Athletic Comm’n, § 54, eff. 4-25-78]—(NAC A 12-13-82; 12-2-97; R058-05, 12-29-2005; R090-07, 12-4-2007; R003-09, 10-27-2009)

Idk by what I read there, stimulants are banned. Cocaine is a hell of a stimulant... If the specific drug isn't listed they can just decide whether or not to enforce this rule or what?

WADA is a fucking joke apparently.

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PostSubject: Re: jon jones tests positive......   Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:08 pm

Agreed.
But don't hate the player.... hate the game.

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PostSubject: Re: jon jones tests positive......   Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:13 pm

So, now this gets a little deeper.
NAC rules specifically state
"The administration of or use of any:

Alcohol; Stimulant; or Drug or injection that has not been approved by the Commission, including, but not limited to, the drugs or injections listed in subsection 2,
in any part of the body, either before or during a contest or exhibition, to or by any unarmed combatant, is prohibited"

The words before or during are specifically stated.

WADA's list of:
PROHIBITED SUBSTANCES S6. STIMULANTS All stimulants , including all optical isomers (e.g. d - and l - ) where relevant , are prohibited, except imidazole derivatives f or topical use and those stimulants included in the 20 1 4 Monitoring Program * . Stimulants include: a: Non - Specified Stimulants : Adrafinil; amfepramone; am f etamine; am f etaminil; amiphenazole; benfluorex; benzylpiperazine ; bromantan; clobenzorex ; cocaine ; cropropamide; crotetamide; fencamine; fenetylline; fenfluramine; fenproporex; fonturacetam [ 4 - phenylpiracetam (carphedon) ]; furfenorex; mefenorex; mephentermine; mesocarb; metam f etamine( d - ); p - methylamphetamine; modafinil; norfenfluramine; phendimetrazine; phenmetrazine ; phentermine ; prenylamine; prolintane. A stimulant not expressly listed in this section is a Specified Substance. b: S pecified S timulants (examples) : B enz f etamine ; cathine ** ; cathinone and its analogues ( e.g. mephedrone, meth e drone, α - p yrrolidinovalerophenone ); dimethylamphetamine ; ephedrine *** ; epinephrine **** (a drenaline ); etamivan; etilam f etamine ; etilefrine; famprofazone ; fenbutrazate; fencamfamin; heptaminol; hydroxyam f etamine (parahydro xy amphetamine); isometheptene; levmetam f etamine; meclofenoxate; methylenedioxymethamphetamine; methylephedrine *** ; methylhexaneamine ( dimethylpentylamine ); methylphenidate ; nikethamide; norfenefrine; octopamine; oxilofrine (methyl synephrine) ; pemoline ; pentetrazol; phenpromethamine; propylhexedrine; pseudoephedrine ***** ; selegiline ; sibutramine; strychnine; tenamfetamine ( methylenedioxyamphetamine ) ; trimetazidine; tuaminoheptane ; and other substances with a similar chemical structure or similar biological effect(s).

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PostSubject: Re: jon jones tests positive......   Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:17 pm

So why did the NSAC allow the fight to go on then?

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PostSubject: Re: jon jones tests positive......   Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:23 pm

if they pulled that fight could you imagine the ufc starting off 2015 like that? considering what a joke 2014 was.

picture nate marquardt vs brad tavares as the main event.

i wonder if jon will lose any sponsers/endorsement contracts. im sure someone will pull back. terrible image for the sport considering he has been in trouble in the past. this whole image of jones is becoming old real fast. cant wait for someone to shelf him
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PostSubject: Re: jon jones tests positive......   Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:31 pm

Official list of the WADA & NAC Unarmed Combat rules if any one is interested.
https://www.leg.state.nv.us/NAC/NAC-467.html#NAC467Sec850
https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/resources/files/WADA-Revised-2014-Prohibited-List-EN.PDF

and yeah it sounds like they knew and let it go.

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PostSubject: Re: jon jones tests positive......   Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:46 pm

the drug tests came back on the 24th. they definitely knew.

does this mean that ufc has ties with wada and nac where they could get around the rules?

if so there should be an investigation into that.

ridiculous that nick diaz gets suspended 1 year and a 60k fine for smoking weed while he has a government approved and regulated medical marijuana card. jon jones gets into a fist fight in public at a press conference and gets caught with cocaine in his system and not a single thing happened. thats bullshit
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PostSubject: Re: jon jones tests positive......   Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:20 pm

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PostSubject: Re: jon jones tests positive......   Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:48 pm

^^^^^^^^


Now thats funny.
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PostSubject: Re: jon jones tests positive......   Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:07 pm

The worst part about this is the obvious cooperative cover-up by the UFC and NAC.
Loopholes can get you a long way in the legal system, where common sense is often overruled in favor of technicalities. So I can't say I'm all that surprised that he's more or less getting away with this because of a ridiculous hole in the rule.
But the sickening part is that the powers that be clearly intentionally withheld information from the public in the interest of making money by allowing him to fight.

There is no morally good reason to not release this information before the fight. The way this was handled by the UFC and NAC is the very definition of shady.
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PostSubject: Re: jon jones tests positive......   Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:27 pm

Fuck Jon Jones, but if I owned the UFC not sure I would not have done the exact same thing so I am not going to throw stones.
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PostSubject: Re: jon jones tests positive......   Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:39 pm

@drainbamage wrote:
the drug tests came back on the 24th. they definitely knew.


ridiculous that nick diaz gets suspended 1 year and a 60k fine for smoking weed while he has a government approved and regulated medical marijuana card. jon jones gets into a fist fight in public at a press conference and gets caught with cocaine in his system and not a single thing happened. thats bullshit

Well, technically he didn't do anything criminally wrong.... at least not enough to get a criminal prosecuter involved.
However, the one assaulted could always press charges in a civil case likely win citing cocaine in Jones' system.

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PostSubject: Re: jon jones tests positive......   Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:15 pm

http://www.bjpenn.com/joe-rogan-reacts-jones-news/

this is a pretty good little clip I just came across....

and I agree that theres some shady stuff going on. I think he should loose the belt and be suspended...something, some sort of repercussion.
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