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PostSubject: Did Conor just retire, or did he just troll the whole world?   Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:53 pm





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Conor McGregor set the mixed martial arts world ablaze on Tuesday with six little words on Twitter, “I have decided to retire young.”

Those six words left everyone scrambling, trying to get in touch with McGregor, his management, his training partners… anyone that might know if the brash Irishman is pulling everyone’s leg or if he’s serious.

As of the time of publication, all we have is McGregor’s tweet. He hasn’t added anything further, and the UFC thus far has not returned requests for comment.


It certainly would be a rather abrupt retirement if true. McGregor lost his last fight, a welterweight bout to Nate Diaz at UFC 196 in early March, but he has been on the warpath to UFC 200, where he is scheduled to try and avenge that loss in the main event of the UFC’s biggest event of the year, if not it’s biggest ever.


At this point in time, it’s all about the tweet and only about the tweet, as we don’t have any further information. Is McGregor tiring of the meteoric rise to superstardom and the pressures that come with it, despite the hefty paydays? Are there circumstances outside of the Octagon pressing him to go in another direction? Did someone hack his Twitter account? Did a cruel friend hijack his phone?

Nobody knows, and we likely won’t until we hear more from McGregor himself. Until then, we’re all left scratching are heads and searching for a way to put out the fire.

UPDATE: A short time after this story went public, McGregor’s coach, John Kavanagh, posted his own cryptic tweet, saying, “Well, was fun while it lasted.”

Of course, Kavanagh’s tweet, without any further explanation, could have been referring to a legitimate retirement or the end of what was supposed to be a funny joke. He then tweeted a picture, hiding behind a couch.


Where is this story going? We honestly don’t know, but we’re going to stay on top of it until we find out.




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PostSubject: Re: Did Conor just retire, or did he just troll the whole world?   Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:06 pm

For the record, I'm leaning towards troll job, given he was just training as recently as yesterday.
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PostSubject: Re: Did Conor just retire, or did he just troll the whole world?   Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:57 pm

OK, so here's the deal, straight form Dana's mouth:

http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/15272422/conor-mcgregor-tweets-decided-retire-young

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:15274805




Not sure if those links work, but Dana called into ESPN to explain what's going on, and here's the long and short of it.

-Conor refused to fly to Las Vegas to shoot promotional stuff (a la Nick Diaz).

-Dana said you have to, everybody has to, and Conor still refused.

-Dana said fine, then you're out of UFC 200 and Nate will fight someobdy else.

-Conor sent his tweet out at some point after that, saying he was retiring.

-Dana says they're still on good terms with Conor and he still has Conor in the UFC's plans, but he can't speak for whether or not Conor is retired; only Conor can speak on that.
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PostSubject: Re: Did Conor just retire, or did he just troll the whole world?   Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:27 am

Just sounds stupid.

What are the odds everyone kisses and makes up and the fight goes on as planned.
Dana and Conor are both hotheads that can let things fly off the handle.
Seems like nothing a few days sleep can't fix.

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PostSubject: Re: Did Conor just retire, or did he just troll the whole world?   Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:46 am

Yeah it's clearly just a power play, and a "line in the sand" move by both sides.
Everyone has been wondering if and when Conor is going to become too big for Dana to control, and I think we're about to find out if that's happened or not.
Conor wants to play by his own rules, and Dana wants Conor to play by the UFC rules, so someone is gonna have to back down.
But round 1 definitely goes to Dana!
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PostSubject: Re: Did Conor just retire, or did he just troll the whole world?   Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:06 am

I am putting the over/under at 0.21 for Conor's BAC when he made that tweet.

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PostSubject: Re: Did Conor just retire, or did he just troll the whole world?   Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:39 am

I honestly cant see them pulling him from the biggest ufc card in history because he wasn't going to a press conference. I call bull shit on that. diaz did that multiple times on a card that had no impact on mma and the fight still went on. theres something behind it and I think chael sonnen is right..

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/4/20/11465682/morning-report-chael-sonnen-thinks-conor-mcgregor-made-a-big-mistake


"He might really be done...I don't know if he wants to be done. This was a negotiation tool. But he called the bluff of the wrong guys. These are gamblers man, there's rules in Vegas. If you say bet you have a bet. I mean that. You go to a casino, you don't put your money down, you tell the pit boss ‘I want that bet' if he yells the word bet you have a bet. And it goes both ways. If you win it he'll pay you...Anytime you go into a negotiation and you call someone's bluff, man you better mean it because this is what can happen."

"When you get beat up by a guy, and then you agree to fight him again, and then you pull out, it really doesn't matter after that. And the miscalculation here by Conor is he's not gonna be telling his side. He's gonna be telling his side to whoever.com. He's not gonna be telling it on FS1 or ESPN or anywhere else. Those days are gone. This was a big mistake."

"Who's a good replacement for Conor? I guarantee you Georges St.-Pierre's phone is blowing up right now and he's getting a big offer. That's the guy they're gonna go after."

"This is the biggest UFC of all time and sometimes that's a fun thing to say for promotional reasons, but it is. When you talk about the ratings, when you talk about the biggest show of all time nobody ever even brings up UFC 100 because it was such an anomaly and the numbers were so crazy that you just throw it out. It's like a curve in school. So UFC 200 you would have to imagine would be that big. He was sitting on top of the bill and this is done. The commercials are out. There's a lot of money that's already spent. There's a lot of billboards that are already up....I've known Dana since 2005. He's not putting a patch in this boat. Conor could call him right now, he's not patching up UFC 200."



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PostSubject: Re: Did Conor just retire, or did he just troll the whole world?   Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:41 am

ps.. I posted the same thing in a different thread could we just use this one so its not back and forth? is there a way to erase my thread?
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PostSubject: Re: Did Conor just retire, or did he just troll the whole world?   Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:19 am

I don't know. Sounds a little bigger than "just a press conference".
They had an entire ordeal lined up to promote UFC 200 including the making of a commercial. That's pretty fkd up when your headliner just says "nope, too busy training".

You want all the fame and fortune, all the media stuff comes with it. One of the reasons it's tougher to stay on top of the world. Not only do you have the best gunning for you, but you have so many other distractions to go along with it.

How long is McGregor contracted for? The UFC could pretty much make him sit for the remainder of it. I also don't see the point in fucking up your relationship with the biggest payor in the MMA world in your young career. He's made something like $12M over his last 3 fights, so he has some time hold out, but also sounds like he's been spending money like mad too. Bellator is a pretty short sighted plan. Where else is he going to go.
Sure, money is better in boxing, but only when you are a top fighter.

At the end of the day, Dana is a business man and he will concede if he knows it's bad for business in the long run. But he can certainly afford to wait a little longer to make Conor come crawling back.

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PostSubject: Re: Did Conor just retire, or did he just troll the whole world?   Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:49 pm

@stock wrote:
I don't know.  Sounds a little bigger than "just a press conference".
They had an entire ordeal lined up to promote UFC 200 including the making of a commercial.  That's pretty fkd up when your headliner just says  "nope, too busy training".  

You want all the fame and fortune, all the media stuff comes with it.  One of the reasons it's tougher to stay on top of the world.  Not only do you have the best gunning for you, but you have so many other distractions to go along with it.

This.
The way it sounded to me is that he was supposed to go to Vegas for media "obligationS". Plural, not just one appearance. Like take a few days and do some filming, photo shoots, appearances, that sort of stuff. I'd be inclined to believe that this was a regularly scheduled block of time for this fight card and all other fight cards, given that no other fighters seemed put out by it, and never seemed to be for past cards.
I'm betting Conor knew ahead of time that he had these obligations at this time, and for whatever reason just plain decided he was not going to do it. I don't buy the "it's interfering with my training" excuse. There's no way this was just dropped in his lap like a random drug test or something. I think this was a calculated move, which we all seem to agree on.

And like Chael's quote above that DB posted, I think he made a mistake trying to call Dana's bluff, because Dana is clearly not bluffing, and I actually applaud him for it.
I know we all can agree to an extent that the fighters as a group are at least a little mistreated, but Conor is the exception to that. And we all also can probably agree that we at least partly believed Conor can pretty much do whatever he wants and Dana will let him, because recent events indicate nothing but that being the case. So it is kind of a relief to see Dana show Conor who's the boss by saying "This isn't up for negotiation. Do it, or suffer the consequences".
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PostSubject: Re: Did Conor just retire, or did he just troll the whole world?   Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:50 pm

wow, it is surprising that everyone is jumping on the "spoiled" connor bandwagon. Here and in the media, it is all just about how connor is being put in his place.
and i say again, although seemingly no one listened to that video i posted or maybe the possibility of connor not being in the mood to pormote a fight when he just witnessed his good friend kill a man with the same skills that he is honing, i say that if there is any truth to connor going through shock, it is on ufc and dana for being assholes and clearly trying to sweep this death story under the rug.
Money fucking rules and everyone actually has bought into that.
connor is also about money but it was never about stepping over people's corpses. he was a dick by trying to rule the game, but that was it, it was just a game and i think he knew that. This is not a game for him right now.
it is obviously not just about not doing a promotion. Dana would never lose so much money over some commercial, it is about something bigger, and this deadly accident probably played a big role.
But even if it is not about reeling from trauma of death, which is almost impossible as it would make connor a monster, i would still hold off my judgement and not jump on his throat and start smearing his name, like is being dome all over media. In the fight between a man and a corporation, i would at least wait and listen to the man.
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PostSubject: Re: Did Conor just retire, or did he just troll the whole world?   Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:31 pm

If your reasons are fact then Conor best be hiring a PR person because his handling of this situation was terrible and he deserves everything he gets.

There are different ways to approach things rather than just fly off the handle when you are a professional. And yes, when you are a multi millionaire for playing a sport, you are a professional and should handle yourself accordingly.

Knowing Conor, he was probably 99% in the bag when he talked to dana and told him to fuck himself.

Again, we may not know all the facts, but we do know what Conor actually put in writing and/or threatened to do. I don't see how we can automatically speculate that Conor had a heart-to-heart with Dana about the trauma of witnessing a death.


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PostSubject: Re: Did Conor just retire, or did he just troll the whole world?   Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:39 pm

@the commie wrote:
wow, it is surprising that everyone is jumping on the "spoiled" connor bandwagon. Here and in the media, it is all just about how connor is being put in his place.
and i say again, although seemingly no one listened to that video i posted or maybe the possibility of connor not being in the mood to pormote a fight when he just witnessed his good friend kill a man with the same skills that he is honing, i say that if there is any truth to connor going through shock, it is on ufc and dana for being assholes and clearly trying to sweep this death story under the rug.
Money fucking rules and everyone actually has bought into that.
connor is also about money but it was never about stepping over people's corpses. he was a dick by trying to rule the game, but that was it, it was just a game and i think he knew that. This is not a game for him right now.
it is obviously not just about not doing a promotion. Dana would never lose so much money over some commercial, it is about something bigger, and this deadly accident probably played a big role.
But even if it is not about reeling from trauma of death, which is almost impossible as it would make connor a monster, i would still hold off my judgement and not jump on his throat and start smearing his name, like is being dome all over media. In the fight between a man and a corporation, i would at least wait and listen to the man.


With all due respect, this is basically something from a video you posted of notorious instigator, Dana-hater, and well documented shit-stirrer Ariel Helwani, where he opens with a metric ton of "perhaps-possibly-if-maybe-could be-we don't know but" and the like and then proceeds to spend the next 13 minutes talking about his theory as if it's fact. He knows no more than anybody right now, which he openly admitted in the video.
What we know is what we've been told, and what we've been told is that he didn't fill his contractual obligations and is being reprimanded for that.
And there is no "Conor is spoiled bandwagon". Bandwagon implies that it's something new and trendy to jump aboard, which does not apply here. It's been pretty much universally recognized for quite some time now that Conor has been getting preferential treatment over other fighters, so let's not pretend that this idea was birthed in the wake of him willingly blowing off his media obligations.
It probably is about something bigger than "some commercial' as you put it (in fact, there's mention of a whole slew of media obligations he's blowing off right in the video you posted), which we've all acknowledged. Nobody thinks it's just about "some commercial". It's about his contractual obligations that he has, just like everybody else.

None of us are saying we know what's going on, because we don't. But neither do you, and neither does Ariel Helwani or anybody else. We're all just theorizing. So you implying that we're being insensitive or close-minded or whatever because we aren't buying into that theory is kind of silly and baseless. The opinion that Conor is blowing this off as a sort of power-play holds just as much water as Conor going through issues with a man dying in an MMA match at this point.

Also, if your theory is correct, Dana and the UFC are not being assholes at all. They're giving him exactly what he wants; they're telling him he doesn't have to promote or even fight right now. If you watched the video of Dana on ESPN, he never smeared Conor in any way. He just stated the facts of the situation, and even said that they are still on good terms with Conor, he is in their future plans, and if he wants to retire, that's his choice. I'm not sure what else you'd have them do in this situation to release them of the asshole label.
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PostSubject: Re: Did Conor just retire, or did he just troll the whole world?   Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:43 am

Again, let's not downplay what goes into making a commercial.
You are talking about an entire production crew and team of people flown in to do this. At my prior company, costs STARTED at $150,000 just to basically turn on the lights.

And he's pretty much the star of the commercial, being the biggest name on the card. Dana's hands are pretty much tied from a marketing perspective if Conor cannot go to Vegas on that date regardless the reason.

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PostSubject: Re: Did Conor just retire, or did he just troll the whole world?   Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:00 am

I don't know why Conor Mcgregor had to make a statement about that fighters death. Conor had absolutely nothing to do with it. Conors training partner was the one who had the sanctioned fight not Conor and if anything the media was wrong with throwing Conor into it. I also don't buy the "he might be in shock" theory. This sport is just as dangerous if not more dangerous than any other sport and deaths and life altering injuries happen from time to time through out the years. Conor has mentioned several times its killed or be killed and that is a true warrior spirit. Him seeing the guy get defeated in a way that was no different than any other usual win couldn't have that much impact. we all watched the video that I posted and all agreed WOW nothing out of the regular. Yes it must of been a shock to hear that this fighter died but unfortunately that is the risk associated with any combat/competitive sports that you take. A few months ago a man died from cutting weight but had no impact on conor, a few weeks ago a boxer died in the ring had no impact on conor, so I can buy that just because his training partned was involved this would have a career ending decision for him at this time.

money rules because that's what conor made it all about.. he made the entire MMA roster fight for bigger pay days and demands.

conor wasn't a dick for trying to rule the game- he was intelegent and is running the game and that's why one tweet can prove that he doesn't need to be at press confrences if he chooses not too because what he does is enough to sell any fight of his. he also made more money than any other fighter in the history of MMA within a 3 year period and only 2 top 10 fighter wins. that's not a dick that's called being a genius.

smear his name??? we are talking about conor McGregor... this is exactly what he wants... this is exactly why he did it. he needs to validate that he is the king and this shows how much power he holds. No one here said anything vulgar or out of the ordinary if anything we are just speculating what the causes could be. no different than you are.

and lastly if it truly was because he was that distraught over the death of another mma fighter I would hope that his fairwell to the sport wasn't thanks for the cheese see yall later. because that is tasteless


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PostSubject: Re: Did Conor just retire, or did he just troll the whole world?   Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:58 am

Connor is a Gladiator, Gladiators were slaves, the US has banned slavery, so .... Dana pay up. Or don't.
Fire the dude and watch your many millions of dollars in revenue vanish.... Or get into a dick measuring contest with Connor... and watch your many millions of dollars in revenue vanish... Or find another charismatic, extremely popular fighter, money machine to take his place (good luck with that). ... and watch your many millions of dollars in revenue vanish... or bank on Rhonda coming back.... (good luck with that) and watch your many millions of dollars in revenue vanish.... or bank on Anderson or GSP or Chuck or Kimbo coming back and making you millions or....
JUST PAY THE GUY.... or not.

Or sell the UFC, heh heh to Connor.
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